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Complaint Review: Wujido Institute - Dallas Texas

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All I have to say is, these guys at the Wujido Institute don't give a d**n about their students. Sure, there might be a couple of people that Harkins or Mark the guy at the desk has a gay fondness for, but they sure never helped me out.

They charged me for classes I never took. Granted, I should have never signed a contract with these weasels, but still, why should I be charged for classes that I didn't go to?

I lost my job right after I enrolled at Wujido and had to move immediately. I had no sympathy from them, they only wanted my money. When I found out that they still wanted to be payed, I asked them if we could work something out to where I would actually attend for the times I paid for (a novel concept). I never got a response, of course.

Anyway, I paid a couple of times, then finally figured out that these guys ain't got nothing on me and stopped paying. I'm just pissed I was suckered into signing up with them at all.

By the way, concerning secret technique, ect. It's all BULLSH**, to paraphrase what Bruce Lee says. If you want a eastern self defensive style that is actually worth something on the street, try taking Jeet Kune Do. A lot tougher than something a nobody made up.

Currently, I am enrolled in Krav Maga, which is pretty damned tough. So you guys saying that all those complaining are just lazy, lack discipline, ect. can kiss my a*s. I work out for 7 to 8 hours a week and I imagine that you only get 2 hours workout a week from Wujido, correct?

Also, I read some excerpts from the Harkins interview on the Wujido website... What a braggart! This guy thinks he is the shiznit and of course has his own secret techniques that only the masters know. I don't deny he is well trained, ect. but it is bullsh** saying that his Yellow Belt students can beat up most Black Belts...I'll believe that if the Yellow Belt is 25 and the Black Belt is 12, which I'm sure Harkins has no problem with. He claims to have discipline, but the guy is clearly off his rocker! Just read his interview if you don't believe me. But whatever you do, don't fall for this "inner power" mumbo jumbo.

If you want to get ripped off and train with a certified psycho, Wujido is for you!

Zach
Richardson, Texas
U.S.A.

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AUTHOR: Jakeforlife - (USA)

POSTED: Thursday, December 08, 2016

I hope Zach is doing well, I see the date is 2003.

At 2003 the enrollment at the school was nearly 280 students I believe? The studio training area was about 980 sqft.  Students were standing in a line outside the school waiting to get into class, the lobby area was over 1000 sqft and comfortable. And still they came...and stayed.  Average was 300% more than any of the other schools.  tremendous success rate. 

1.  The recruiters at the time were Mark and Andrew.

2.  Front office was ShanShan Xiao.

If Zach was a student and I do not doubt he was. I suppose.  I do feel bad for his situation but as a business we have a limited ability to subsidize bad life choices of students and it is clear he did not attempt to have or arrange a meeting to talk with me.

I always take time for my students, but my time would be limited so the student would need to contact staff and arrange a meeting to explain to me his situation.  Our classes were packed like sardines and my teaching schedule was full.

Since zach was unemployed he could have come to the school during the day when i am not so busy, but I suppose he did not think of that.  too embarassed to tell us he got fired I suppose.  I understand.  But if I spend my time helping every student get his personal life together, I have no time to benefit anyone.  That's on him.

So He figures there are no consequences to breaking his word so he breaches a contract made in good faith by both parties I am sure, and that makes Wujido a bad business.  I am quite sure he would not do this to...say the telephone company, power company, water company, car paymnent, rent. because there would be consequences. This is a reflection not on Wujido Institute but on Zach.

Well, no one chased after him. No one berated him. He just failed at something he wanted to do, maybe, and then went on a public smear and disparagement website to libel someone who never did anything wrong to him.  Classes were there, held on time every week as promised. Wujido kept its promise.

Wujido was not oppressive or mean.  If he tries to spin that he was not completely informed, well that would be a lie.  And besides not being a person of his word as I am, and I keep my word even in a purchase that maybe did not go as well as I had hoped because sometimes life will shift the ground under our feet and what was a good decision last month is a bad one today, and a bad decision today turned out to be the best outcome. Some people call that luck.

Businesses that don't keep good business practices cannot survive.  If Wujido does not survive we cannot benefit people.  The purpose of Wujido Institute was to benefit people.  There are too many people with communist liberal thinking. No one owes you. If we agree on something I owe you what I promise nothing more, nothing less.  If you want something you have to earn it. 

If somehow you have $$$ obligations that you have made (yeah like everybody) and your dollars do not equal the $$$ of your obligations, that is not some other's fault and they are not obligated to take from their own to take care of you.

this was 25 years ago or so.  I do hope zach is doing better and is no longer angry and unemployed and in the frame of this partially fake, or rather quite negatively spun emotional puke against some other poor unfortunate who is damaged personally and financially by this driviling puke review.

I did not create your problem, it was never my fault you lost your job.  Trying to hurt me because you could not take care of yourself and you needed others to subsidize your decision is just bad, really bad.

IMPORTANT FACTS

Let me tell you something.  If you came to me, I would have cut you slack and maybe created some situation where you could have continued to train. I might have even given you a part time job to help you out.  I have done this before.  My teacher Dr Brownridge hired me when I came to him and told him I could not come up with the $400 I still owed, and I OFFERED to work for hi.

WHAT AN UNBELIEVABLE LIFE CHANGING DECISION THAT WAS!!!!!!

I could have stiffed him, with resentment try to hurt him because my conscience needed to make him the villan in my movie.  But I didn't and I owe him big time for how my life turned out.

You know how much?  Would you like to know.  So much that even though sometimes I would spend a year or more an not see him because after 83 I moved south.  I traveled north almost annually for periods and sometimes even stayed for months.

Without agreement or contract I would always check on him and send him money.  If he wanted me to sign a contract I would sign it and pay the whole contract even if I never had a chance to walk into his school.  I would attend seminars and even though I would be requested to teach part of the seminar I not only paid for my seminar fee, There would be several who did not have the fee, and I would pay their fee as well.

When I went to promotions, if there were students that did not have their belt fees and if I saw him trying to get them to pay (respect requires they pay) I would not stand for it!!!  I would pay their fee.  When Tony Harris 7th Dan was testing at the same time as me, I was testing for 9th Dan.  He did not have the money so I paid his test fee, over $750.00

I also, when my money was good (not so much now...retired) I arranged for and set up a retirement for him so that he will not be humiliated in his retirement.

So you tell me, who benefited most from my attitude of generous and freely giving out of respect for his great teaching and guidance.  Did I lose out? Is that what you think about it?"

So...Zach   We all make choices and you made your choice and I made mine.  Looking back on it now.  Do you think maybe you should have done things differently.

Let me think.  I wonder if you could imagine the amount of valuable knowledge, priceless knowledge and skill you could have had when all you could think about was a few $$$.

For decades I lived in almost absolute poverty in some of the most dangerous places to learn my art.  I hope for your sake you made the best decision for you.

Thank you

Dr. Harkins

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Why are you Wujido-ites in Denial???

AUTHOR: Zach - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, July 12, 2004

Yes, I went to the Wujido Institute...yes, I studied with Dr. "Psycho" Harkins in the room...and yes, I even went to Fort Worth to pick up my black pajamas to work out at the place, before Harkins "expanded" his work out room (oh, I mean shop). I forget what year it was, but they weren't selling ghi's or whatever you call the pajamas things now.

It's funny to note that you Harkins worshippers always deny that a person who has a complaint or say that they didn't try hard enough. Why can't you people face reality? It's right in front of your faces...you signed a contract that Harkins considers fulfilled the first time you step into class, meaning Harkins thinks you owe him $2000+ just for signing a sheet of paper.

Listen, when I recieve no goods, no services, I don't pay!

When informed that Wujido was trying to collect on the defunct contract, I asked Mark if I could attend class for the money I was paying...of course he didn't ever call me back and I didn't care enough to try and negotiate to learn from a sociopath like Harkins.

Denial is the lowest form of refutement, you people won't face the fact that Harkins rips people off...

Well, I was there, I was ripped off, and those scumbags still think that I owe them money.

As far as validity of Wujido vs. other martial arts, I wonder why no one gets to see the class before taking one? Like I said, I was there, and I wasn't impressed...does Harkins have a scheduled lesson plan or does he just call out s**t off the top of his head for his "teacher" students to carry out?

And hey, it's funny to watch Kungfu practitioners get their asses handed to them in UFC or Pride fights...that is enough proof that Wujido is a load.

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#2 UPDATE Employee

Zach never was a student

AUTHOR: Office - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, April 24, 2004

Too many of the submissions at this site are complete fabrications. According to our records this Zach person was never a student.

We have too many people who are GRADUATES from Mixed Martial Arts schools and Krav Maga and Jeet Kune Do who have many YEARS of experience (some who have been instructors)in these classes who comment how powerful the system is and how happy they are with it. A non-student or a quiter is not a good source of information.

Old-school Kungfu is Mixed Martial Arts that has evolved over many centuries. (Kung fu styles are more often than not several styles in one) Wu Xing Ba Fa Lohan Shaolin is in fact 6 styles. WujiQuan is former Han Battlefield Kungfu, and most people are familiar with Yang family TaijiQuan. WujiQuan also teaches, BaGua, Xingyi, Eagle claw, Monkey, Preying Mantis in its cirriculum.

Most new styles are just reinventing the wheel by rearranging in a non-traditional format first level techniques from various styles. An example might be Mui Tai, the round kicks are popular in Mix Martial Arts circles but it is rediculous to believe that the round kicks of MMA are at the level of Mui Tai practitioners. If they are it is the exception rather than the rule.

Most new systems are created quickly, appear and then dissappear and have little staying power.

We are not interested in criticizing the hard work or skill of other teachers.

a cybersmear site is not a good source of reliable information.

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Zach never was a student

AUTHOR: Office - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, April 24, 2004

Too many of the submissions at this site are complete fabrications. According to our records this Zach person was never a student.

We have too many people who are GRADUATES from Mixed Martial Arts schools and Krav Maga and Jeet Kune Do who have many YEARS of experience (some who have been instructors)in these classes who comment how powerful the system is and how happy they are with it. A non-student or a quiter is not a good source of information.

Old-school Kungfu is Mixed Martial Arts that has evolved over many centuries. (Kung fu styles are more often than not several styles in one) Wu Xing Ba Fa Lohan Shaolin is in fact 6 styles. WujiQuan is former Han Battlefield Kungfu, and most people are familiar with Yang family TaijiQuan. WujiQuan also teaches, BaGua, Xingyi, Eagle claw, Monkey, Preying Mantis in its cirriculum.

Most new styles are just reinventing the wheel by rearranging in a non-traditional format first level techniques from various styles. An example might be Mui Tai, the round kicks are popular in Mix Martial Arts circles but it is rediculous to believe that the round kicks of MMA are at the level of Mui Tai practitioners. If they are it is the exception rather than the rule.

Most new systems are created quickly, appear and then dissappear and have little staying power.

We are not interested in criticizing the hard work or skill of other teachers.

a cybersmear site is not a good source of reliable information.

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