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Submitted: 2/4/2002 12:00:00 AM

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How to protect yourself from credit card scams
A start-to-finish analysis
by Rip-off Report.com


by
ED Magedson - Founder & Consumer Advocate
EDitor@ripoffreport.com

Maybe you have just received a credit card offer in the mail that sounds incredible. So incredible that it makes you wonder, 'is this too good to be true?' Maybe you just paid good money for what you believe is a major credit card. Or maybe you paid for a credit card and got something unexpected in return, like an unsolicited phone card. If any of the above situations apply to you, it is imperative that you continue reading this chapter.



In this report, we will briefly describe the popular credit card scams; outline what some of the credit card scam warning signs are, and how you can find out if an offer is legitimate. However, we will mostly focus on what you, as the consumer, can do if you realize that you have 'been had.'

We will start by telling you what scams are very popular, and how the scams operate. This horrible trend is occurring not only across the United States, but also internationally. Many innocent consumers are being ripped off by fraudulent credit card companies every day. Here is a quick run down of what these companies are doing to steal hard-earned money from the pockets of citizens.

the Bait…
The 'companies' purposely seek out people with horrible credit or no credit, and offer them a major credit card in exchange for a start up fee. They take the customers bank account number over the phone, usually withdrawing between $150 to over $500 dollars from that persons account, and in most cases do not send anything to the consumer in return. Beyond that, they have been known to sell this private banking information to other companies who will, in turn, make repeated and unauthorized debits to consumer bank accounts. The scam companies themselves will often continue to access the consumers' bank accounts without permission.

There are some consumers who finally do receive a package in the mail, but it is not what they expected. The package will consist of No major credit card, just a folder full of flyers, some secured credit card applications that could be obtained without fee elsewhere, maybe a catalog, and on rare occasions, a 'platinum' or 'gold' card that can only be used to purchase items out of a catalog.

Even when a consumer does get all of the aforementioned items, they were just as well off not receiving anything at all. This is because the card can only be used if the consumer makes a hefty cash down payment (up to 60%) on overpriced and outdated catalog merchandise.



the Catch…
Now, let's say you get a similar letter, or for that matter a phone call that is offering a credit card with a large credit line upwards of $10,000, and perhaps a low (or no) interest rate, regardless of past credit history, all in exchange for a 'small' processing fee. Again, the only catch they say is the small 'processing fee' ranging from $40 to $500, payable by check. They even tell you that for your convenience, you can pay via check-by-phone to instantly get your brand new platinum or gold card. All you have to do is give them your account number.

WARNING: Of course this sounds great, too good to be true even, but you may need the credit and want to give it a shot. If this is the case what do you do? If you want to determine if this great offer is real or not, you can follow a few easy steps, and look for some obvious credit card fraud warning signs.

Lets talk about warning signs first. Many of the fraudulent credit card companies use many of the same methods to get consumers to take the bait, but these methods are in many cases, also signs of fraud. Below are just a few of the warning sings.

*They claim to offer a very high unsecured credit lines, even to those with bad credit.

*They claim to offer major Gold or Platinum cards with little or no interest for up to the first 3 years

*They offer customers non-existent vacations, free computers, and other benefits in addition to the credit card.

*Their offers contain no real bank name

*There is no contact phone number on the offer OR they only provide an 800 phone number, with no other phone number with a bona fide area code OR vice versa.

*There is no web site, and if there is a web site, there is no further contact information and password protected.

*The company only lists a P.O. Box address

*There is no county business license filed; It is not registered with the State's Corporation entity (if incorporated)

*There is no physical address for the contact of an agent (Even if the business is incorporated in another state, they must have a registered agent in each state in which they do business)

*The name of the company is similar to that of a legitimate bank.

*The offers say 'for limited time' or 'must act today'

*The letter or phone rep stating 'for today only'

*They offer this only in return for auto bank payment, and do not accept checks by mail or credit card payments.
If you receive an offer and it has these warning signs, our advice is to stay away. However, if you are still intent on finding out for sure, you can always check RipoffReport.com to read what other consumers are saying about a particular credit card company, or you can contact a Rip-off Report staff member by email. In addition to visiting Rip-off Report™ and using us as an asset, you can also check with your state's department consumer protection, the Federal Trade Commission, and even your state's Attorney General's Office. In our opinion, the Better Business Bureau (and their inaccurate files) is a bust, because they solicit membership in exchange for favorable status. But if you feel you must, you can always contact them as well.

By contacting these agencies, you will be able to find out if other consumers have filed complaints about the company you are researching. Finally, if the company checks out with all of the above check your state's Department of State to confirm that the company is active and permitted to do business within your state.

the Damage Done…
What if it is too late? What if the offer just sounded too good to miss out on, and you just gave out your banking information to a card company before doing research? What do you do, what can you do?

First, before you come to any conclusions, research the company using the methods that we previously mentioned. However, do this research quickly because putting it off for even one day too many could mean the difference between the very easy way out, and the very difficult way out.

Don't let them get away with it!™
If after doing research you find that a company is a scam, or is not offering what they promised, do not kick yourself and do not beat yourself up, take action immediately, and make them the sucker! These companies are good at selling you on their scam products, so don't feel too bad if you fell for it, just make sure you make them pay. Don't let them get away with it!™

Obviously, most of you will want to get your money back and prevent the company from scamming you again before you do anything else, so we will discuss some ways that you can do so. If you paid over the phone with your checking account, get to your bank as soon as possible, and close that account. This will prevent the fraudulent company from making unauthorized debits to your account in the future. Thus, they will not be able to scam you again.

WARNING: Even if you are able to catch this in time by placing a stop payment on the transaction, if you leave your account open the scam artists can go back into your account and debit your account later.

Before you go any further you should also report your situation to law enforcement in an effort to make them aware of what may be a new scam. Some government agencies you may want to contact are the FTC, the FBI, the state Attorney General's Office, and even your local police. (You can usually find these phone numbers in the government listings of your local phone book.) If the offer was over the Internet or by phone you should also contact the FCC. Doing this will probably not get you a refund, but it may help protect others from being scammed in the future.

Last but not least, be sure to file a Rip-off Report at ripoffreport.com. Telling your story here will definitely help to warn others, and may also help you recoup your losses because you may provide Rip-off Report staff the information needed to go after the company!

GETTING YOUR MONEY BACK!
Now, let's talk about getting that money back! If the company took money from your account less than 60 days ago, you have a good chance at getting an easy refund. So, once again, jump in that car, hop on the trolley, or even that pink huffy, and get to your bank ASAP. When you get there, tell your bank manager that a fraudulent company took money from your account, and that you wish to have the unauthorized Automated Clearing House (ACH) transaction reversed immediately. A nice touch would be to take printed copies of other Rip-off Reports filed on the company that victimized you.

Most banks will be cooperative, reverse the transaction and credit your account right away. However, there are some banks that are not helpful in this area, at all. These banks will treat you rudely and question you to no end… they will ask 'how did the company get your account number?', 'why did you authorize this?', 'we can not help', etc. Basically, they will try to make you feel like an idiot, but don't let that happen!

Getting a Refund
If the transaction was within 60 days, and you request a reversal, but you sense that your bank will not cooperate with you, here is what you do: Tell them that you did not authorize the debit, DEMAND that they reverse the ACH transaction in accordance with NACHA and Federal Regulation E rules, and let them know you wish to sign an affidavit of unauthorized/fraudulent account activity. Make it clear to the bank that if they do not assist you, legal and other appropriate actions will be taken against them. Even let the bank know that you will file a rip-off report on the Internet about them if they do not help you immediately. Don't be afraid to escalate the matter by speaking to the supervisor, the manager, etc. until you have even spoken to the president of the bank.

If you do all this, and they still do not cooperate, contact the RipOffReport.com EDitor's staff right away. They may be able to assist you further. In rare cases, the companies take payment via credit card, and if this happens the answers are even simpler. Call your credit card company right away and dispute the charge. These disputes are almost always effective.

Fraudulent companies are just that, fraudulent… and they will not contest ACH reversals or credit card disputes. Therefore, if you are certain that you were scammed, do not let the scam company's reps scare you with threats of tape-recorded conversations that will show you are lying. This is because even if they did get your conversations on tape (they most likely didn't), the recorded conversations would only show that the company fully engaged in illegal and misleading activity.

Now, you should have a good idea of what to do if you realize that you were taken within 2 months of the debit or date of the scam… dispute the charge at your bank, or with your credit card company, and most likely, all will be fine.

It's never too late!
BUT, what if you were busy or for some other reason, it took you more than 2 months to realize that you were a scam victim? Here is where it gets tricky… Things CAN be done to get a refund and even a little revenge after the 2-month deadline. We will discuss those options later.

Before we get to that, please remember that if you are in the process of dealing with a company that appears to be fraudulent, do not accept their excuses, act before the 60-day deadline! These companies purposely try to hold you off by making excuses for what they call 'delays,' or technical problems, when in reality, they are just trying to get you past this 60-day deadline, in an effort to prevent you from disputing the transactions.

I am sure you are wondering what can be done if you waited too long? Let's talk about a few of your options. Keep in mind that this company ripped you off, and they now think they got away with it, so it is time to get real mean! Be determined, and do NOT be afraid to pull out all the stops.

FOLLOW THE MONEY TRAIL
Scam companies, just as terrorists and other clandestine organizations, need to have someone else move their money. Finding those who handle the money is the best way to put an end to their illegal activity. Finding the money source is also the best way to find out who is behind the scam, and definitely your best shot at a refund. I will explain what these scam companies do to get to your money and how to use that information to your advantage. It is too late to deal directly with the scam company now, they do not care who you report them to at this point, so you must go after the money processors.

The fraudulent credit card firms almost never have the capability to process your banking information without outside help. Therefore, they hire third party Automated Clearing House (ACH) processing companies to debit, and in extremely rare cases, credit bank accounts for them. Find the money processor, and in most cases, you've found your refund!

To do so, you will once again have to get to your bank. Tell the bank your situation, and tell them what you need, which is the name of the third party processor, who put the transaction through for the fraudulent credit card firm. The bank will usually have to do an ACH investigation and get back to you in a few days with the information. The bank will have no reason to be uncooperative, but if for some reason they are, it is definitely time that you find a new bank. If they refuse to get you this information, they are not worthy to receive your business.

Before you leave the bank, however, do not go out without a bang. Talk to the bank manager, demand he/she get you the information, and if necessary, even threaten them with a small claim lawsuit, something we will talk about later. Remember, now is the time to get mean! Now it's your turn to be sneaky. Give them a taste of their own medicine!!

It may also be helpful to let them know you intend to picket the bank with signs that they are aiding and abetting the deception and fraud of other customers and that the bank can not be bothered by giving this information which should be readily available anyway. Let the bank know you will also hold a press conference with all the local news media.

I am sure many of you are saying, 'okay, suppose I am able to get the name and phone number of the third party ACH processing company, now what?' Well, here is what you do… The third party processors are often pretty legitimate. They only make money by processing money. However, if they paid closer attention to their clients, you would not be in the situation you are in now, right? Well, let's remind them of that! BUT before we do, we need some information about the third party processor.

So, go to your phone and call the Secretary of State of the processor's home state, or any state in which they actively do business, and get a copy of the processor's annual status report. This report will have the processor's corporate director list, physical addresses, and registered agent information. You can usually get these same status reports on the appropriate state's Secretary of State web page.

While you are at it, you should also try to get a status report for the company that ripped you off, because you may need the information contained therein at a later date. If you have problems getting a report(s), please contact the RipOffReport.com EDitor's staff, as they may be able to help. However, only do so if you are able to send them the above pertinent information, or at least the name of the ACH processor.

After you get the aforementioned annual status report, it is time to do a little more research. Try calling 411, and getting home phone numbers and addresses for the processor's corporate officers and registered agent, if they are not listed on the corporation information page. Then see if the processor has a web site by doing an Internet search, and begin to collect email addresses for as many employees as possible.

Once you gather as much information about the third party ACH processor, and their staff, you need to call them (business line first), and ask to speak with their CEO. If you have their status report, you will already know the name of their CEO, so ask for him/her by name. They may not put you through at first but be persistent, do not stop calling until you get an executive on the line.

Tell the CEO or other corporate officer your story (nicely at first) and ask that they assist you in getting a refund. Who knows, they may be helpful. If not, remind him or her that their company is processing money for a company engaged in illegal activities. Then, inform him/her that if they do not assist you, you will add their name to the small claim you filed against the fraudulent credit card company. You may make this threat even if you have not yet filed a small claim! If the processing company wants to avoid sending an attorney half way across the U.S. to defend a lawsuit worth no more than a few thousand dollars, they will just refund you on behalf of their fraudulent client.

If they still are not cooperative, time to get a little nasty! Tell the processor that above and beyond the lawsuit, and a report to law enforcement, you will be repeatedly posting their legally-obtained home phone numbers, cell phone numbers, home addresses, email addresses, etc. on RipOffReport.com. Doing all or a combination of the above will usually work, especially if the processing company is legitimate and wants to protect their good name.

Sometimes, however, the processing company will just refuse to help you all together. Then what? Well, first do exactly what you said, file a Rip-off Report that contains all of the personal information you obtained legally. If you have trouble gathering this personal information, contact the ripoffreport.com staff for help.

Posting this personal information will get you partial revenge, and some satisfaction, but may not be enough to get a refund. By revealing their personal information in a Rip-off Report and faxing a copy to them, will probably get their attention enough to get them to talk to you about returning your money.

If all else fails, you can really file a small claim lawsuit against everyone involved. To do so, you will need the name and registered agent for both the scam company and their processor. This information will be on the status report you obtained earlier.

All you have to do to file this small claim is go to your local small claims courthouse (which are normally called justice of the peace courts, municipal courts, or district courts), and pay a small fee, if any. Then, take the company names, and list them on a small claim lawsuit using the registered agent addresses.

Filing a small claims lawsuit accomplishes a few things. First and foremost, they annoy and inconvenience the companies they are filed against! In addition, they are inexpensive to file, and will almost always get you a judgment. Many times, the companies will not even respond which means you will get an automatic default judgment, so ask for the state maximum! If you win by default (or otherwise), your local court will tell you how to execute the judgment (which means how to get your money back). Remember, that interest can accrue usually from the date of loss. In most states it is about 9 - 10% per annum, or about ¾% per month. It adds up.

One other thing filing a small claim may help you do, is protects your credit. In some cases, fraudulent credit card companies have the nerve to send negative reports to credit bureaus. If this happens, your lawsuit judgment would help show that you do not owe them money!

If you really want to pay back a company that ripped you off, you could always go to your local municipal court and file a claim against the corporate officers personally using their home addresses. You may not win, but dragging their rears along with their lawyers to your home state sure would be fun, wouldn't it?

Hopefully, some of the above methods will help those of you who are on a quest to retrieve money that is rightfully yours. I also hope we helped to properly warn others about the horrible scams that are plaguing America.

Finally, visit the Rip-off Report and contact our staff if you feel that we can be of any help.
Remember, DON'T let them get away with it™ Make sure THEY make the Rip-off Report!

ED Magedson - Founder & Consumer Advocate
EDitor@RipoffReport.com
badbusinessbureau.com
www.ripoffreport.com

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Another Consumers view, ....
a little harsh, unfortunately it's mostly true.


After reading about a thousand or so rip-off reports about “credit card" scams, I have to put in my two cents worth.

There seem to be two different scams but a lot of similarity. Both types offer to rebuild the victim's credit. Both require advance payment and neither delivers the service expected.

Scam number one is the phony credit card offer. The victim is told that he is pre-approved for a credit card with a very high limit, but he must pay in advance either with a check or by a debit from his checking account. The card is not delivered for at least two months, if ever. When it does arrive, the victim finds that the card is good only at issuer's store, where goods are vastly overpriced and require substantial pre-payment.

Scam number two is the secured credit card offer. The victim is required to pay in advance for a genuine VISA or Mastercard with a very low limit. When he receives the card, he finds that he owes additional processing fees that put his card over the limit, triggering the over-limit fee and, by the way, the first payment was due before the card was mailed so the victim now owes late fees, too.

I personally have never been the victim of either of these scams, probably because I have good credit. The victims who report these scams often say they were trying to “re-establish" credit, meaning that they have already demonstrated an inability to manage their finances. The sad truth is that the scammers prey on the society's losers. If you declared bankruptcy or went belly-up on a credit account in the past you are the scammer's target. No legitimate company is going to offer thousands of dollars worth of credit to someone with a history of not paying their bills. The system just does not work that way.

But suppose you are the victim of one of these scams. What can you do?

First of all, if you paid by check and the check has been cashed, you will never see that money again. It's gone for good and no one is going to get it back for you. Also, if they have taken money out of your checking account by debit and more than sixty days have passed, you have almost no chance of recovering that, either.

If you wrote a check to the scammers and it has not been cashed, you can try to put a stop payment order on your check. You will need to go to your bank to do this and they will charge you a fee.

If the scammers have taken money from your account by an electronic funds transfer and less than sixty days have passed, contact your bank, tell them you did not authorize this withdrawal, and ask for a return of the funds. You should also send a letter to your bank by Certified Mail asking for return of the funds. (The address where this should be sent is on your checking account statement.) Do not wait for your “credit card" as your time to act is limited. (The scammers drag out processing your card more than 60 days to prevent you from getting your money back from the bank.) Even if you did authorize the withdrawal, tell the bank you did not. The scammers will not speak to anyone on the phone, including the bank, so the bank will hear only your side of the story.

If you have fallen victim to scam number two – the credit card that was over-limit and past-due when you got it, you will have to take a different approach. Again, whatever you already paid is gone for good. You need to stop them from continuing to rip you off and ruining your chances to re-establish your credit.

From a legal standpoint, these contracts can be invalidated for a number of reasons. Perhaps the clearest is “failure of consideration." This means that one party gets nothing in return for his money. To legally rescind (cancel) a contract, you will have to go to court and obtain a judgment.

Most states have a small claims court of some type and exactly what kinds of cases they may hear will vary from state-to-state. Small claims courts are meant to allow individuals to sue without an attorney. What you should sue for is “rescission of contract due to failure of consideration." The scammers are unlikely to appear and you should be awarded judgment by default. Remember, you are unlikely to recover the money you have already lost, but your judgment will be legal proof that you do not owe the scammers any money. You should send copies to the major credit bureaus.

One last thing that applies to both scams: since the scammers have your checking account number, close your account and open another one. It's the only way to stop them from picking your pockets again.

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EDitor's Suggestions on how to get your money back! ..Money that was wrongfully taken out of your bank account..

HERE IS WHAT RIP-OFF REPORT SUGGESTS YOU DO:

Go to your bank within 60 days of the charge, or as soon as you know about the charge, don't delay, and tell them that there has been fraudulent activity within your account. Explain that you wish to file a dispute, and demand that they assist you in accordance with Federal Regulation E.

According to the majority of victims interviewed by Rip-off Report, those who immediately called their banks to dispute the charges did not get very far. Many victims got the following responses from their banks: “we could not do anything for you" or “you waited too long; it has been more than 60 days".

If the bank is says that you have waited too long, explain to them how you called their 800 number as soon as the charges were found, and were told by the bank that nothing could be done. Remind the bank that they failed to assist you properly at the 800 #, and instead, provided you with an inadequate explanation of your right to dispute. Tell the bank that it's their fault time has expired, and since they gave you the wrong info to begin with, they will just have to deal with it, take the loss and reverse the charges.

Tell them the truth; this was unauthorized and your account was NOT to be charged! Keep emphasizing how you never authorized anything! Direct them to the hundreds of victims reports that were filed on Rip-off Report.com. And if you're at the bank, walk them over to their computer and make them go to this site! If you are on the phone with them, tell them you will wait while they access this site! Either way, be persistent!

DO NOT TAKE NO FOR AN ANSWER!

Let them know nicely, that you were advised to Report them (the Bank) and this situation to the Banking Commission in your state. Since each state has a different name for the agency/controller over banks, find that name before you call or get to the bank so you can throw it in their face. The more knowledgeable you appear to be, the further you will get.

And just continue to demand the Federal Regulation E form! The bank CAN, MUST and WILL reverse the charge! But, you must be persistent; ask to speak to the supervisor or the area manager for all the branches in the state.

Let the bank personnel know you are meeting with the media later in the day, that you would much rather they do the right thing (as most other banks have) by looking at the complaints and immediately reversing the charge(s) to your account; no matter how long ago it was. Be sure to call the Media if necessary so you are telling the truth.

If you have to, be loud (but nice) in front of other customers. If you are just calling by phone, the above tactics should still work. The bank can easily fax or mail to you the Federal Regulation E dispute form.

CHARGES TO YOUR CREDIT CARD

If the charge was to your credit card (not debit card, check card, or checking account), contact the credit card company as soon as possible to request a dispute form. Consumers usually have a little longer to dispute fraudulent credit card charges (up to 6 months), but it is better to act right away. In this type of situation, credit card disputes are usually successful since fraudulent companies often won't contest the disputed charge. In rare cases, credit card companies will review disputes, but refuse to reverse the charges. If this occurs, complain to a manager and let them know you will be filing a report here.

Remember… Don't let them get away with it! Make sure they make the Rip-off Report .. The more Reports filed on a Company or individual, the more likely it is that the authorities, media and attorneys will want to take action.

And good luck… Let us know how you do!

ED Magedson – Founder, Rip-off Report.com & Author of www.ripoffrevenge.com
EDitor@ripoffreport.com
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  • Rip-off Report Investigation **UPDATED info ..Many times you can get a refund Mike S. Peterson [2/14/2002 12:00:00 AM]
  • Mr. Perone's Comments ..Rip-off Report receives over 3,000 Thank You e-mails to date, like the one below. Ornaldo [3/24/2002 12:00:00 AM]
  • Updated: How to deal with phony credit cards Marian [4/11/2002 8:22:30 AM]
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ConsumerSuggestion

Submitted: 2/14/2002 12:00:00 AM

Modified: 11/18/2005 12:13:11 AM
ConsumerSuggestion

Mike S. Peterson

Media, Pennsylvania
U.S.A.

Rip-off Report Investigation **UPDATED info ..Many times you can get a refund

Mike S. Peterson
Consumer Advocate / Investigative Reporter
BADbusinessbureau.com

Although the above Consumer's view was somewhat harsh, it was mostly true. However, the person who filed the above comments, neglected to include some important information.

As far as the phony catalog credit cards go, you CAN get your money back in some cases. The person who filed the original report says over and over again that you will NEVER see your money again. However, that is not necessarily the case, as I am living proof that it is possible.

If you have fallen victim to one of these scams, and you are not able to get a refund even after you have made repeated requests, there is what you should do:

First, these scam companies usually do not have the capability to make bank drafts on their own, so they hire outside debit processing companies to debit bank accounts for them. So you should immediately check with your bank and get the name & home state of the processing company, and then get the names and addresses of their directors and registered agent by way of a corporation search. To do this search, visit the state website where the processing company is located, and click on the 'secretary of state', 'dept of commercial recordings', OR the 'corporation/LLC info' link, then enter the company name. You can also get this info by calling the Secretary of State or the Dept of Commercial Recordings in the appropriate state.

After you get these names, addresses, and phone numbers, call the processing company and try to get the director on the line, make repeated calls if necessary. Tell him/her your whole story, and let it be known that if they do not assist you in getting a refund, you will name them along with the scam credit card company as a co-defendant in a civil claim because of their involvement with the illegal draft to your bank account. Also let them know that you will be serving their registered agent with the claim at the address you have obtained from the search. Even though you really may not want to add them to a claim, pestering the processing company may help you to get a refund. These processing companies are 'usually' pretty legitimate, so they will often give you your money back in an effort to avoid any legal involvement. In my case with Credit Enhancement/Liberty Benefits, I was able to get my money back by contacting United Capturdyne Technologies, Liberty's debit processing company. United Capturdyne ate the $219.00 just to avoid being involved in legal action. This may work for you just as it did for me, so give it a try, it can't hurt.

Second, if all of your attempts to get a refund through the scam credit card company, and the processing company are unsuccessful, file a civil claim in your state's small claims court. These small claims courts are usually referred to as 'district court', 'municipal court', or justice of the peace court'. When you file, your claim does not have to be long, just give a brief description of what happened. Also, be sure to use the proper address for the defendant. You will need to name the scam company as the defendant, but you will have to use the address of their registered agent, otherwise, the company will probably never get served with the claim. To get the address of the scam company's registered agent, you will again have to do a Corporation/LLC search on the appropriate state's website. However, this will be a little bit more difficult since these companies use so many names. Therefore, you may also need to do a 'fictitious name' search on the same website. After you get this address you can file, and wait for a court date.

There are minimal filing fees involved, but there is a very good chance you will win. Just as the person who filed the original report said, it is unlikely that the company will even appear in court to present a defense, and if that is the case, a default judgment will be entered on your behalf. However, I disagree with the original reporter's statement that you will never see money from this judgment, and that the only purpose for such a judgment is to protect your credit.

Being able to protect your credit is just one benefit of obtaining a judgment. There are plenty of ways you can attempt to execute a default judgment (or any judgment) if the defendant refuses to pay. Your local court can tell you what your execution options are. There is a good chance that you would recover at least some of money you are awarded.

Finally, I would like to respond to some of the comments made in the rip off report.

The original reporter stated: 'I personally have never been the victim of either of these scams, probably because I have good credit"…. ME: You cocky, smart A$$!!! You did not always have good credit, unless your parents applied for, and paid off a car loan for you while you were still in the womb.

He/She also stated: “The victims who report these scams often say they were trying to “re-establish" credit, meaning that they have already demonstrated an inability to manage their finances. The sad truth is that the scammers prey on the society's losers. If you declared bankruptcy or went belly-up on a credit account in the past you are the scammer's target. No legitimate company is going to offer thousands of dollars worth of credit to someone with a history of not paying their bills. The system just does not work that way"

I take personal offense to the above comments. Just because someone has no/bad credit, or has fallen victim to one of these scams, does not make them 'one of society's losers'. At 24 years old, I probably have much more education than you do, yet I fell for a similar scam. In many cases, people are just trying to ESTABLISH credit so that they are able to qualify for auto or home loans in the future. That is what happened in my case, I enrolled as a way to prepare for any of my possible future credit needs. Furthermore, these victims, including myself, were outright misled. Yes, if someone offers me credit for no reason, I would be suspicious, but that was not that case. Just like everyone else, I was led to believe that the scam company had agreements with several banks, and that by signing up a package that teaches one how to manage credit responsibilities, I would receive a catalog card, and major credit card in return.

Finally, many people find themselves with bad credit because they have come across difficult financial times. This can happen for a variety reasons, including but not limited to: sickness, disability, and involuntary unemployment. The mismanaging of finances is not always the cause of bad credit as you have suggested. But no matter what the cause, late bill payments and/or loan defaults, and eventually bad credit reports are often the result. I appreciate the constructive comments that you included in the report, but you should have kept the insults and negativity to yourself.

The bottom line is this: Even though the toolbox/simpleton/ignoramous who posted the above report says “you will never see your money again", don't give up. If you go about everything the right way, there is a chance that you can get your money back, maybe more.

Thanks for reading, and good luck!!

Mike S. Peterson
Consumer Advocate / Investigative Reporter
Rip-off Report

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ConsumerComment

Submitted: 3/24/2002 12:00:00 AM

Modified: 11/18/2005 12:13:11 AM
ConsumerComment

Ornaldo

Brooklyn , New York

Mr. Perone's Comments ..Rip-off Report receives over 3,000 Thank You e-mails to date, like the one below.

Thanks for your very informative advice. I must admit that I was lucky to find this website as I had just received the approval certificate for the Capital Choice card in the mail.

I had read the terms and conditions on the other side which described the card as a merchandise card which puzzled me as I wasn't sure if there was a difference between that and any other credit card.

After all, the letter calls the card a 'credit card.' I don't know if merchandise cards are considered credit cards and just went online to see if there was a difference or exact distinction. At any rate, I found all the negative comments from all the posters here and am happy to have seen them.

I thought that the card might have been only usable through their catalog as I read the terms and conditions and was actually willing to live with that, but then saw all the posts about account deductions - terrible.

I'm glad I found this and very sorry that other people had become victim to this unfortunate scam. At any rate I thank you very much for your excellent advice and will save this posting in the event it could be heplful to me in the future.

Lastly as well, I felt slighted at the original poster's comments as well, feeling some of them unecessarily haughty and glad you made comment of that. Thanks and take care.

ConsumerSuggestion

Submitted: 4/11/2002 8:22:30 AM

Modified: 11/18/2005 12:13:11 AM
ConsumerSuggestion

Marian

Santa Barbara , California

Updated: How to deal with phony credit cards

I also have received in the mail this credit card from CCA. It had the credit limit of $6500. The difference with my situation is that I do not have bad credit nor do I need to establish my credit. I have an excellent credit rating and have had one for more than 20 years. The first thing I looked at was the membership fee's and saw that it was $99. Right then and there is when I thought to myself 'They have got to be out of their minds!'. I have a VISA Titanium and a VISA Platinum that have limits of $15,000 and $18,000 with NO annual membership fees. When also stated in the letter this was a way to build credit I thought it sure was an expensive way to go about it! The letter just had way to many warning flags that this was not all it was made up to be. So, I just wanted it known that not only people with bad credit standings are receiving these scam cards, but also people with outstanding credit that may know a little bit more about what to look for when receiving 'Your Approved!' notices in the mail.
M.A. in Calif.

ConsumerComment

Submitted: 4/11/2002 7:42:03 PM

Modified: 11/18/2005 12:13:11 AM
ConsumerComment

Nancy

Havertown , Pennsylvania

I Have To Agree With the First Post

I am not trying to offend anyone and I don't wish to insult those that were scammed. But I have to agree with some of his statements that 'the system doesn't work that way.'

First off, why would people ever consider PAYING for a credit card? An annual fee is one thing but paying upwards of $200 to get a credit card is just plain stupid. What are the reasons for this fee? The so-called bank makes their money from interest and annual fees not by 'processing fees' or whatever they are calling it. There is no legitimate reason to pay for a credit card.

The second post said, 'You cocky, smart A$$!!! You did not always have good credit, unless your parents applied for, and paid off a car loan for you while you were still in the womb.' My reply is, 'Yes, I have always had good credit,' and I will protect it at all costs. I started with a small department store card and worked my way up to a MC/Visa. I did not have co-signers or parents who paid my bills for me. I just used credit wisely and paid it off over time proving I was a good credit risk. I obtained my first loan by saving for a decent down payment on a car, got the car loan on my own, and paid it off over time and ON TIME. While I don't agree that those that have bad credit are 'society's losers', I do agree that they are not the ones that banks come looking for to give unsecured credit. The only way to establish or re-establish credit is to pay whatever you owe on time and over a period of time, whether it is a loan, a store charge, or even the electric bill. Yes, I know it is hard to get credit when you are young but most department stores or a Home Depot will give you credit if you have a job and some way to pay it back.

As for 'coming across bad times,' that is no excuse not to pay your bills. I have been there and still managed to pay something to each creditor on time so I didn't hurt my credit. But even if you do pay some things late, you can always build it back up by paying on time over an extended period of time. That is re-establishing your credit. But you also can't let things get so bad that they close your account or repossess your car or home. Even if they take away your charging privileges, you can still pay what you owe, little by little, to show you honor your debts. Again, that is re-establishing credit, which is showing that even though you hit hard times, you still pay.

One other question...the second poster said he ordered this package as it 'teaches one how to manage credit responsibilities.' How can a package do that? Any credit you get and pay back teaches you how to manage credit. There is no quick and easy way to do this. It happens over time, through prosperous and poor financial times, not by paying a fee for a magic cure.

ConsumerSuggestion

Submitted: 4/14/2002 9:28:42 AM

Modified: 11/18/2005 12:13:11 AM
ConsumerSuggestion

Terri

Al , Alabama

Common Sense

I got one of these letters in the mail on 04/13/02, I do have bad credit, I DID NOT get there buy volunteering NOT to pay them. I did how ever did my best for several years to pay what I could. I was not able to and the intrest, late fees and collection call fees were adding up that what ever payment that I could afford dissapeared in those fees. As if no payment was ever made. Over time is just added up.

EVERYONE Starts out with NO credit! They get it either buy some credit/ department store company willing to start a small credit line OR Parents Giving their Kids a good start! Which is nothing wrong with that! I started with Fingerhut and now that my credit is not to good with bankruptcy on the charts I will again have to start small and try even harder! Some of us obvious did not go through hard enough times,(If they was able to keep up theire payments.)One day your words will turn around and bite you in the buttocks!(which I hope will never happen!) I knew something was up when I was offered $5000.00 line of credit. Plus wanted to know the differance between merchandise card and a credit card. I went to search engine typed in Capital Choice Consumer Credit and got this site amoung others.

I KNEW something was up, when I could not get a $200.00 credit and now was offered $5000.00???!!!!!!!! But wanted to check it out. Just curious!!!! I do like the fact I was forced to go bankrupt, but what is done is done and I will start this whole thing over again. Just a note... I always paid my bills 2 months in advance before this happened, and still was forced to go bankrupt after 5 years trying to avoid it.

The calls and mail became my worst nightmare. Thank you and start with some one like Providian. You may have to pay some fees but it will start you on your way to rebulding your credit and one day you will get a card with no fees! Good luck to all of you and God Bless!

ConsumerSuggestion

Submitted: 4/16/2002 7:22:13 PM

Modified: 11/18/2005 12:13:11 AM
ConsumerSuggestion

Michael

Chadds Ford , Pennsylvania

Hey Nancy, go take a nap in the middle of Rt.3 !!! ..Perone, keep up the good work!

Dear Nancy,

Go take a nap in the middle of Route 3, and then tell us about having no excuses for late bill payments.

People get cancer; they lose family members who earn part of the income, etc. Bad things happen, and because of those things people can't make their payments.

People like you are the problem with Delaware County. We have too my trashy, unsympathetic, morons here, and we don't need you, so BEAT IT!!

1- Either you came across a couple extra dollars, decided to migrate from Philly to Havertown (a close suburb), and now want to toot your own horn by way of this site.

-OR-

2- You are just a middle class do-nothing who mooches of hubby and has coffee talk with the other worthless non-working mommies of Delco while a man is out making $$ to pay YOUR bills.


I mean, I don't want to offend you or anything but... Oh wait I do!! You jerk!


I was once in a bad position. I once had no credit, just like everyone else, including YOU.

Fortunately however, I was able to work through the difficult times, and earn a degree that allows me to net over 175g/yr, and I hope everyone else can do the same....except for you of course.

I hope that you will always NEED credit.. I hope that you will always NEED to have a mortgage and car loan, just like you do now. Why?? because you are a horrible person. Otherwise, you would not have written mean things on this site, especially when they are NOT productive in any way.

Keep driving that SUV Mommy Mobile, but direct the meanness towards someone else. Be mad at yourself for being such a turd!

These people made mistakes or were mislead and came here for help, your posting just makes them feel worse.

In addition, I believe that Mr. Perone's comments were excellent!! and he was 100% accurate in his statements.

Furthermore, I am aware of the packages that Mr. Perone spoke of, and I used a legit one myself years ago. It taught me how to use my existing credit to make my credit report look better. For instance, use my card monthly even if I didn't need to, but then pay off the entire balance if possible.

To all of you who came across one of these scams ... Don't feel bad, keep your head up, it happens to the best of us. Don't let inconsiderate people like Nancy from Newtown Sqaure/Havertown get you down.

Hey Perone... I saw your other posting. Keep up the good work! I will see you in a couple of years as a 'colleague'!!

Take care everyone

ConsumerComment

Submitted: 5/12/2002 7:09:10 PM

Modified: 11/18/2005 12:13:11 AM
ConsumerComment

Prudence

South Milwaukee , Wisconsin

Right On Perone & Michael!

I had absolutely perfect credit before I got married and I am now divorced. Bankruptcy was not my decision. My X filed and I was forced to since I could not afford the debt alone.

Our home was foreclosed on & sold. My family purchased it back at a civil price and I paid the mortgage. In hindsight, I put myself in a difficult position since I couldn't afford repairs needed later. I could not get a loan, but was approved for a CapitalOne Card ($200 limit) which I used sparingly for needs. I reached the limit in no time and paid cash for everything else including fix-ups. I struggled to keep up and with health problems and bills that led to unreasonable late fees and over-the-limit fees...(see my CapitalOne Rip Off Report, Penny from Milwaukee).

I am still trying to re-build my life and credit. Bad things happen to good people, so for those of you who think you have the 'World by the Ass' take heed...maybe someone will screw you!

ConsumerComment

Submitted: 5/15/2002 9:21:35 AM

Modified: 11/18/2005 12:13:11 AM
ConsumerComment

Cathy

Cudahy , Wisconsin

thanks to you all

I sent a check to capital choice. Thank god i'm one of the lucky ones. I was online today and was looking for their phone number when i ran into the rip off reports.

I immediately called my bank and luckily the check did not clear.

This check was written in March so, I was very lucky thanks to the people who put the information on line. I would have never known with them.

I put a stop on the check so, it only costed me $7.00 rather than the $39.00 dollars I had mailed.MY only problem now is tring to reach the hartford group for the auto club so, that they don't bill me.

ConsumerComment

Submitted: 5/20/2002 8:07:36 PM

Modified: 11/18/2005 12:13:11 AM
ConsumerComment

Mark

Harrisburg , Pennsylvania

Secured and/or Dedicated Use Credit

The Scenario seems strangely familiar...

A couple of observations to offer that might shed some light on this issue.

1. The 'application fees' or 'processing fees' are really insurance premiums that the credit company pays on your account that they will collect if you default on the account.

2. The catalog items that are sold through some companies are usually overpriced and have been purchased at bulk and discount because they have been out of production for a while. Can you go find the same product at the mall or another local store? Probably not and if you would ask about a particular brand or model, it would have been discontinued.

3. Most credit card companies both secured and unsecured have the best game going: The charge the cardholder from 1 over prime to as high as 26 percent AND take anywhere from 6-10 percent from the deposit the merchant makes where you bought the item - all on the same amount! Do the math: we are talking potentially close to 40%!!! Sammy the loan shark would be in heaven!

4. Credit certainly rules our economy and society and has a manifested a firm grip on our lives over the last 50-60 years. In my opinion, your credit information is retained far too long and should be erased after 3 or 4 years. Convicted criminals have shorter sentences than the 'sentence' of a bankruptcy. Yes, the rules of the game follow the 'Golden Rule' - You know, he who has the gold makes the rules - but we ultimately have control, which is....

5. We might just have to do without some of those 'wants', extras, have to have it now type purchases. I am not talking about the necessaries like a car and a home, but perhaps some thought, foresight, budgeting and a reality check once in a while would prevent some personal economic disaster.

6. Unforseen events can and do happen to all of us, and sometimes planning is impossible. Been there enough times myself to be a chartered member. All I can say is do what you can, but dont be too proud to ask for help - sometimes pride can cost you more than you can imagine.

ConsumerComment

Submitted: 5/28/2002 10:04:55 PM

Modified: 11/18/2005 12:13:11 AM
ConsumerComment

Rebekah

Bay Saint Louis , Mississippi

avoid this company!

I came across this site, because earlier this evening I received a phone call from Capital First. They ask for my Bank account #no. and my social security #no. They were offering a un-secured Master Card with a $ 1,500 limit, with no processing fees, and a one time $ 19.95 debit from my account. To try for 7 days!

They spoke such broken English that it was very hard to understand them I repeatedly kept asking them questions. Yes these companies are all to be avoided. It is very difficult to try and re-establish your credit, and still live a normal life, as in purchasing a vehicle, or a home.

It can take years to do this. During the mean-time, cars age, and you can only re-pair them so much,or in my case, divorce can take a devasting effect on you financial statis, and credit. I wanted to say to the person who wrote about the people who have bad credit as if we are a lower class of indivuals, losers, or what ever the implication was,that sometimes its just about marriages that have gone sour.

It is not that we do not care, or are not concerned about our debts. I enjoy being able to pay my bills, however, I did not make the money that my husband did, when we were married. I also had my chilren to support, and being a single parent with only one income is not easy. When you have to make a decision, ' do I pay on my loan payment, or put food in my house for my babies?'

Well, guess what? The loan payments get behind real quick, and sometimes there is just no avoiding it unless there is more money. No one should look down on anyone because they get an offer, and they want to believe that it is legitmate, simple because they really could use the leg up! It takes a credit card to rent a car, or to reserve a hotel room, etc.

It is not just poor people, or welfare cases who have bad credit. What about your large corporations that file Bankruptcy? Then come back and re-structure under a different name? My favorite store ' Service Merchandise went out of business!

Why? So on a personal basis, do you not understand that any one of you, no matter how long you have had your good credit standing, if your company should ever fold, you may be one of us, your good standing will not last long, when you do not have a job! But you know what? There is a bright side to all of this too! Without credit, we are not heavily in debt,either.
Thank you, Reb

ConsumerComment

Submitted: 5/31/2002 9:06:02 AM

Modified: 11/18/2005 12:13:11 AM
ConsumerComment

David

Port Hueneme , California

Perone you are the man!!

Perone you are the man!!I also have l