The Jehovah's Witnesses use smoke screen to catch Christians off guard ..A CRITICAL LOOK AT THE JEHOVAH'S WITNESS BIBLE

Does god really need a name to identify him or her god is not even him or her god is a being or is god a being being implys a begining and end well then god is eternal. the need to name god is purile. is jesus god yes jesus is god.who can give eternal life only god can john 4 v14 god is a spirit john 4 v39 only god can judge..john 9 v 39 i came to the world to judge.who can give eternal life only god can john 10v28 my sheep listen to my voice i give them eternal life.john10v30 my father and i are one john1032 the father is in me and I in him.who can give life only god can john 11 v 17 lazarus was dead for 4 days and jesus brought him back to life.john11v25 i am the resurrection and the life whoever believes in me will live even though he dies.john 13v20 whoever receives me receives one who sent me john 14v7 now that you know me you will know the father also from now on you do not know him and you have seen him.

john14v9 lord show us the father that is all we need i have been with you all yet you do not know me whoever has seen me has seen the father and the father is in me. the words i have spokendo not come from me but the father who remains in me does his own workbelieve me when i say i am in the father and the father is in me.is jesus god? if jesus is not god and yet has the gifts of god then according to jw's there ought to be two gods then what about the holy spirit the mover that descended on the apostles on pentecost day and is similarly powerful, i will send one to befriend you.this holy spirit is the third god.Is not the trinity a very simple reality.our words are insufficient to compartmentalise and limit the description of gods nature. the reality is that we do have references to god as father "father into thy hands i commend my spirit" and several others and yet we do have statements of jesus confirming jesus is god " my father and I are one" before abrahm was i am.If there are three gods then which one is the most powerful or "the" god."In the begining was the word and the word was with god and the word became flesh"thus it is proven that jesus is god and gods presence being spiritual make god a spirit being. the triune nature of god...My brothers and sisters in christ jesus. kofie anan has said the war on iraq was an unjust war should we not take bush, blair and howard and all who have gone to war with iraq to an international court of justice and try them for crimes against humanity.all over the world humans are killing at random what is wrong with this good earth and its inhabitants.christ came two thousand years ago to preach a religion of love blessed are the peace makers for they shall be called children of god but the greatest democracy in the world with the highest number of believers have been instrumental in fighting many wars in the name of democracy or preventing the spread of communism and yet they are believers in jesus and god and the saints and profess to have the magna carta and seat of justice and the motto "in god we trust" in guns we trust is more a truism.jw's are great people who pound the streets making converts to their brand of faith but theirs is not a conversion of the non christian they go for the already converted who due to the lack of an indepth knowledge of their faith fall for the fallacious reasoning and attack the external practices of the visited. most oftern their converts have been in a vulnarable situation where there is a death or illhealth or unemployment and they have assisted the visited in their moment of need. Well this speaks reams for those who claim to possess the whole truth and do nothing to bring to the marginalised and the desperate succor and comfort in their time of need which the jws do because they comb the streets house to house.If only all christians were to combine our joint forces and take christs command" go preach the gospel to the ends of the earth" we would have one whole company of brothers and sisters in love with jesus and his gospel.the old adam in is does not want to live in peace even though we preach the same about christ. wwjd.

what would jesus do. he'd say you have turned my house into a den of thieves... clergy and layity alike lead lives far from being christ like. chlidren molested by the trusted ones,and all knds of other debauchery and abomination unto god. "you have turned my house into a den of thieves"
risiorgimento, renew,restore,be the salt of the earth the yeast, the lamp on a hill.we need saintly men and women saintly priests and nuns and saintly jws and pentecostals and fundamentalists and protestants and anglicans and lutherans and every kind of christian. why dont we choose the three weeks prior to the 24th of Dec (dont worry jws this is only a date and nothing to do with christmas)starting from the 1st of dec three weeks of fasting and prayer to invite god to renew the face of the earth. read the bible jws, catholics say the rosary and fast and do penance, anglicans do your thing whatever which brings you closer to god,all denominations who profess to be followers of christ "let us have three weeks of agape" lets pray for peace, for harmony, for holy living and live holily each and every one who reads this. lets us put aside our theological differences for three weeks of december 2004 and simply pray as jesus commanded.

This complaint does not make any sense what so ever

Are they selling something? How much did you pay for it?

They are not a company selling a product, either

you listen or you don't.

This is not the correct forum, for your debates

So how did you get ripped off? Are you serious with this?

You can do all the research you want, the truth

will stand for itself, whatever that may be

If you don't like it, don't listen to it

You don't have to pay for lies, like you do at

church, the Jehovah's Witnesses take donations

only, being a member in church is like having

another house payment, or car note

God said his word is free, so why do so many pay

for it?

Who's the real "Rip Off Artist"??????

I've noticed the people that bashed your article either claim you have a lack of faith or claim that you're a disgruntled ex member with an agenda. None of them really debunk your claim.

As for another JW translation anomaly

Ex.3:14-15 reads, "And Elohim (Another name for God) said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and

That's how it's written in most bibles, yet in the JW bible, it's translated as "I shall prove to be as I shall prove to be".

Maybe it's because Jesus later said "
Before Abraham Was,
I AM" (Jn.8:58)"

In the JW bible, it's translated as "Before Abrhama was, I was", to something in that vein (I don't have the JW bible set before me.)

No reputable Bible translates "I AM" in any other way, except for bibles translated by Neo-Adventist Non-Trinitarians like the Church of God and other whackjob religions. (And guess who's the biggest Neo-Adventist Non Trinitarian church?)

01-18-03

Dear Friend:

I found the following quote:

My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. John 10:27-28

Why do I need someone else to translate it?

I don't!

Religion defined:

The word religion is derived from the Latin noun religio, which denotes both earnest observance of ritual obligations and an inward spirit of reverence. In modern usage, religion covers a wide spectrum of meanings that reflect the enormous variety of ways the term can be interpreted. At one extreme, many committed believers recognize only their own tradition as a religion, understanding expressions such as worship and prayer to refer exclusively to the practices of their tradition. Although many believers stop short of claiming an exclusive status for their tradition, they may nevertheless use vague or idealizing terms in defining religionfor example, true love of God, or the path of enlightenment. At the other extreme, religion may be equated with ignorance, fanaticism, or wishful thinking.

By defining religion as a sacred engagement with what is taken to be a spiritual reality, it is possible to consider the importance of religion in human life without making claims about what it really is or ought to be. Religion is not an object with a single, fixed meaning, or even a zone with clear boundaries. It is an aspect of human experience that may intersect, incorporate, or transcend other aspects of life and society. Such a definition avoids the drawbacks of limiting the investigation of religion to Western or biblical categories such as monotheism (belief in one god only) or to church structure, which are not universal. For example, in tribal societies, religionunlike the Christian churchusually is not a separate institution but pervades the whole of public and private life. In Buddhism, gods are not as central as the idea of a Buddha (fully enlightened human being). In many traditional cultures the idea of a sacred cosmic order is the most prominent religious belief. Because of this variety, some scholars prefer to use a general term such as the sacred to designate the common foundation of religious life.

Religion in this understanding includes a complex of activities that cannot be reduced to any single aspect of human experience. It is a part of individual life but also of group dynamics. Religion includes patterns of behavior but also patterns of language and thought. It is sometimes a highly organized institution that sets itself apart from a culture, and it is sometimes an integral part of a culture. Religious experience may be expressed in visual symbols, dance and performance, elaborate philosophical systems, legendary and imaginative stories, formal ceremonies, meditative techniques, and detailed rules of ethical conduct and law. Each of these elements assumes innumerable cultural forms. In some ways there are as many forms of religious expression as there are human cultural environments.

Microsoft Encarta Reference Library 2002. 1993-2001 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

Stop arguing about who is right and who is wrong, show compassion, help others. Until science proves what it all means we are all just guessing. However, even science can be biased.

01-18-03

Dear Friend:

I found the following quote:

My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. John 10:27-28

Why do I need someone else to translate it?

I don't!

Religion defined:

The word religion is derived from the Latin noun religio, which denotes both earnest observance of ritual obligations and an inward spirit of reverence. In modern usage, religion covers a wide spectrum of meanings that reflect the enormous variety of ways the term can be interpreted. At one extreme, many committed believers recognize only their own tradition as a religion, understanding expressions such as worship and prayer to refer exclusively to the practices of their tradition. Although many believers stop short of claiming an exclusive status for their tradition, they may nevertheless use vague or idealizing terms in defining religionfor example, true love of God, or the path of enlightenment. At the other extreme, religion may be equated with ignorance, fanaticism, or wishful thinking.

By defining religion as a sacred engagement with what is taken to be a spiritual reality, it is possible to consider the importance of religion in human life without making claims about what it really is or ought to be. Religion is not an object with a single, fixed meaning, or even a zone with clear boundaries. It is an aspect of human experience that may intersect, incorporate, or transcend other aspects of life and society. Such a definition avoids the drawbacks of limiting the investigation of religion to Western or biblical categories such as monotheism (belief in one god only) or to church structure, which are not universal. For example, in tribal societies, religionunlike the Christian churchusually is not a separate institution but pervades the whole of public and private life. In Buddhism, gods are not as central as the idea of a Buddha (fully enlightened human being). In many traditional cultures the idea of a sacred cosmic order is the most prominent religious belief. Because of this variety, some scholars prefer to use a general term such as the sacred to designate the common foundation of religious life.

Religion in this understanding includes a complex of activities that cannot be reduced to any single aspect of human experience. It is a part of individual life but also of group dynamics. Religion includes patterns of behavior but also patterns of language and thought. It is sometimes a highly organized institution that sets itself apart from a culture, and it is sometimes an integral part of a culture. Religious experience may be expressed in visual symbols, dance and performance, elaborate philosophical systems, legendary and imaginative stories, formal ceremonies, meditative techniques, and detailed rules of ethical conduct and law. Each of these elements assumes innumerable cultural forms. In some ways there are as many forms of religious expression as there are human cultural environments.

Microsoft Encarta Reference Library 2002. 1993-2001 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

Stop arguing about who is right and who is wrong, show compassion, help others. Until science proves what it all means we are all just guessing. However, even science can be biased.

01-18-03

Dear Friend:

I found the following quote:

My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. John 10:27-28

Why do I need someone else to translate it?

I don't!

Religion defined:

The word religion is derived from the Latin noun religio, which denotes both earnest observance of ritual obligations and an inward spirit of reverence. In modern usage, religion covers a wide spectrum of meanings that reflect the enormous variety of ways the term can be interpreted. At one extreme, many committed believers recognize only their own tradition as a religion, understanding expressions such as worship and prayer to refer exclusively to the practices of their tradition. Although many believers stop short of claiming an exclusive status for their tradition, they may nevertheless use vague or idealizing terms in defining religionfor example, true love of God, or the path of enlightenment. At the other extreme, religion may be equated with ignorance, fanaticism, or wishful thinking.

By defining religion as a sacred engagement with what is taken to be a spiritual reality, it is possible to consider the importance of religion in human life without making claims about what it really is or ought to be. Religion is not an object with a single, fixed meaning, or even a zone with clear boundaries. It is an aspect of human experience that may intersect, incorporate, or transcend other aspects of life and society. Such a definition avoids the drawbacks of limiting the investigation of religion to Western or biblical categories such as monotheism (belief in one god only) or to church structure, which are not universal. For example, in tribal societies, religionunlike the Christian churchusually is not a separate institution but pervades the whole of public and private life. In Buddhism, gods are not as central as the idea of a Buddha (fully enlightened human being). In many traditional cultures the idea of a sacred cosmic order is the most prominent religious belief. Because of this variety, some scholars prefer to use a general term such as the sacred to designate the common foundation of religious life.

Religion in this understanding includes a complex of activities that cannot be reduced to any single aspect of human experience. It is a part of individual life but also of group dynamics. Religion includes patterns of behavior but also patterns of language and thought. It is sometimes a highly organized institution that sets itself apart from a culture, and it is sometimes an integral part of a culture. Religious experience may be expressed in visual symbols, dance and performance, elaborate philosophical systems, legendary and imaginative stories, formal ceremonies, meditative techniques, and detailed rules of ethical conduct and law. Each of these elements assumes innumerable cultural forms. In some ways there are as many forms of religious expression as there are human cultural environments.

Microsoft Encarta Reference Library 2002. 1993-2001 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

Stop arguing about who is right and who is wrong, show compassion, help others. Until science proves what it all means we are all just guessing. However, even science can be biased.

01-18-03

Dear Friend:

I found the following quote:

My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. John 10:27-28

Why do I need someone else to translate it?

I don't!

Religion defined:

The word religion is derived from the Latin noun religio, which denotes both earnest observance of ritual obligations and an inward spirit of reverence. In modern usage, religion covers a wide spectrum of meanings that reflect the enormous variety of ways the term can be interpreted. At one extreme, many committed believers recognize only their own tradition as a religion, understanding expressions such as worship and prayer to refer exclusively to the practices of their tradition. Although many believers stop short of claiming an exclusive status for their tradition, they may nevertheless use vague or idealizing terms in defining religionfor example, true love of God, or the path of enlightenment. At the other extreme, religion may be equated with ignorance, fanaticism, or wishful thinking.

By defining religion as a sacred engagement with what is taken to be a spiritual reality, it is possible to consider the importance of religion in human life without making claims about what it really is or ought to be. Religion is not an object with a single, fixed meaning, or even a zone with clear boundaries. It is an aspect of human experience that may intersect, incorporate, or transcend other aspects of life and society. Such a definition avoids the drawbacks of limiting the investigation of religion to Western or biblical categories such as monotheism (belief in one god only) or to church structure, which are not universal. For example, in tribal societies, religionunlike the Christian churchusually is not a separate institution but pervades the whole of public and private life. In Buddhism, gods are not as central as the idea of a Buddha (fully enlightened human being). In many traditional cultures the idea of a sacred cosmic order is the most prominent religious belief. Because of this variety, some scholars prefer to use a general term such as the sacred to designate the common foundation of religious life.

Religion in this understanding includes a complex of activities that cannot be reduced to any single aspect of human experience. It is a part of individual life but also of group dynamics. Religion includes patterns of behavior but also patterns of language and thought. It is sometimes a highly organized institution that sets itself apart from a culture, and it is sometimes an integral part of a culture. Religious experience may be expressed in visual symbols, dance and performance, elaborate philosophical systems, legendary and imaginative stories, formal ceremonies, meditative techniques, and detailed rules of ethical conduct and law. Each of these elements assumes innumerable cultural forms. In some ways there are as many forms of religious expression as there are human cultural environments.

Microsoft Encarta Reference Library 2002. 1993-2001 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

Stop arguing about who is right and who is wrong, show compassion, help others. Until science proves what it all means we are all just guessing. However, even science can be biased.

Are you bint because maby they have higher standards on not praising one person over another? As for your First bible verses, i felt that Checking a few types of bible's would help me understand what the fuss was all about. I went to Bible.com .

American Standard version Of the Holy Bible
5:4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; so neither can ye, except ye abide in me. 15:5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same beareth much fruit: for apart from me ye can do nothing. 15:6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and
Amplified Bible (AMP)John 15:4

4Dwell in Me, and I will dwell in you. [Live in Me, and I will live in you.] Just as no branch can bear fruit of itself without abiding in (being vitally united to) the vine, neither can you bear fruit unless you abide in Me.
5I am the Vine; you are the branches. Whoever lives in Me and I in him bears much (abundant) fruit. However, apart from Me [cut off from vital union with Me] you can do nothing.

Where do these bible people come up with Union, does it not mean togetherness, are you trying to say that Christ will posses people?

Phill 2-10 and 12 Where every Knee will bow, is it not true that Jesus Christ is now King? And in Isaiah 45:23 that Jehovah is letting his then covent people know that he will still be in charge even though the other gods Bal and Nebo where very provaliant strong gods. You notice now that there is a new people of all nations toungs and tribes that are under Jesus as King.

I wonder who is more like Christ? Some one who only teaches to there established congrigation, or people whom not only model them selves after Christ, and do what Christ told them to- preach the good news to the entire inhabited world!
I am not in the job discription of recruiting, i am only an informer.Heck Im not even a Witness, yet.
I just get the feeling that you are the one recruiting, posing your website and mailing address, which i know you ask for donations because I once appon a time used to get your mailer. I found that your words in your mailer where not factual, and that You dissed other religions instead of mearly comparing them. It seems that you have a Chip on your sholder. Could it be that you have been rightly dissfelloshiped? I see alsorts of people online dissing JW, and Mormans, and more than most are Dissfelloshiped.. well no wonder! DUH? Am i seeing a pattern.
You have the right to let people know that Jws can prove there case, "smoke screen"? I dont think so. Oh and thank you for letting people know that they have more respect for there God than to put fame on them selves.