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Complaint Review: MOBE - Internet

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  • Reported By: Jarrod — Austin Texas USA
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I want to share my personal experience regarding MOBE/MTTB (My Online Business Empire/My Top Tier Business). I am going to leave out emotion and simply give an objective evaluation of my experience, why I gave it a try, what it is, and why I do not recommend it.

Why I gave MOBE/MTTB a try:

I had been in online and offline internet marketing for a couple years. I had made a fair amount to supplement my regular income, but not enough to live on alone. I was searching for a way to make that happen, and came across MOBE. The message sounded simple enough. You can make $4k a month by selling a thousand $4 items, or by selling four $1k items. I was convinced that selling big ticket items was the way to go.

I did some homework online and saw plenty of negative reviews MOBE had received. However, I also saw several marketers I’d come to have a good deal of respect for that were doing it. I was convinced (oh how we lie to ourselves!) that the haters were just a bunch of whiners who didn’t have what it takes. If someone I respect believes in it and has found a way to make it work, then it must be legit and I can make it work too. 

I paid the initial $49 to get in and take a closer look. Once in, I got through the first few of their 21 steps (which are designed solely to up-sell you into higher ticket items) and then spoke with one of their sales reps on the phone. I was still a little leery, but they assured me that if it did not work out then I would be offered a refund. With that assurance, I forked over the $2,000. Nervous, but hopeful. 

What Is MOBE/MTTB?

Many people reading this will already have a sense of what it is and are just looking for reviews, but for anyone not familiar, here’s the skinny.

MOBE is a system where you pay big money to obtain the license rights to some “top tier” internet marketing training courses which you can then go out and sell on your own. They liken it to a franchise. Instead of starting a new restaurant, testing the market, making adjustments and spending money as you go only to likely fail and close your doors, you can be a franchisee, owning your own McDonalds or Subway. Similarly, instead of doing all the work on your own, you can leverage their done-for-you systems and products which they claim have been tested and proven. 

In order to get the license rights to go out and sell their high ticket items, you have to invest a minimum of $2,000. This gets you set up at the “MLR” (MOBE License Rights) level. They have “titanium” and “platinum” levels available for a sizeable chunk more. 

What I Observed

Once I was in, I spoke with a few folks, including the guy who recruited me and asked them: Do you make any money selling the high-ticket items you bought the license rights to, or just by getting more people into the system? The answer was exclusively the latter. There is surely some exception to this somewhere, but as a general rule, those making money in MOBE are only making their money by getting others to join MOBE. There is a good reason why reviews for MOBE across the web are filled with terms like “ponzi” and “pyramid” and “MLM” and “scam”. They have very carefully and strategically put things in place to avoid the technical legal definition of some of these terms while embodying the essence of all of these in spirit. 

Bye Bye $2k

After realizing first hand how the system works (turns out the plethora of negative reviews online were right after-all) , and losing more than a little respect for those who were pushing MOBE, I decided it was not for me. I want to make money selling an actual product or service that is worth more than what I am selling it for, not by selling…, well…, nothing. With MOBE, I wouldn’t be selling any of their high-ticket items. (I couldn’t find anyone who does so.) I would simply be getting others to pay $2k or more to join the system, so they in turn could go out and recruit others to pay $2k or more to join the system, so they in turn… 

Having seen this, I asked for a refund. And I was denied. Unfortunately, it was over the phone and not in writing that I was told I could get a refund, and without having it in writing, I was out of luck. It was my word against theirs, and of course they denied having said such. I went to my bank to have the charges reversed, but unfortunately was not able to do so. 

In Summary

I was hopeful in giving MOBE an honest try, but in the end found it to be an unethical way to make money. They proved themselves to be more than a little deceitful which is how they managed to walk away with $2k of my money which they refused to refund. 

Avoid MOBE/MTTB like the plague.

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#4 Consumer Comment

This is Mobes refund policy or scam policy by William John Thomas

AUTHOR: William John Thomas - (Australia)

POSTED: Sunday, November 26, 2017

This is Mobes refund policy, and if the biggest stores in the USA adopted this refund policy the FTC would jump on those stores and make them use a refund policy

that was fair this policy is a scam. mobes refund policy below.

                                     Rules of so called refund policy or scam policy.

5. You must have implemented three of the following traffic methods:
6. - Facebook, pay per click
7. - Solo Ads
8. - Banner Ads
9. - Adwords (Google, bing etc)
10. - Video Marketing

You must forward the email you joined Mobe with.
11. - Article Marketing
12. PROOF
13. You need to provide clear proof to our support desk (
https://mobe.com/support) that you have implemented
the system and despite your efforts you have not be able to make a sale. Acceptable forms of proof are as
follows:
Screenshots of your own tracking statistics
Videos of your own tracking statistics
Emails of the opt-ins from your autoresponder for solo ads
Receipts from your solo ad vendor
Screenshot of your Facebook ads
Infusion tracking stats linked to the ads you are claiming you have used
15. All proof must clearly display the dates of the ads and show your name and email address to confirm they
are your ads.
16. If Affiliate shall make an assignment for the benefit of creditors, or be placed in receivership or adjudicated a
bankrupt, or take advantage of any bankruptcy or insolvency law, licensor may terminate this agreement by
giving written notice to the Affiliate, specifying the date of termination, such notice to be given not less than
10 days prior to the date specified in such notice for the date of termination.
17. Licensor may terminate this Agreement if Affiliate:
misrepresents, makes false claims or damages the business or personal reputation of Licensors;
conducts him or herself in an unprofessional manner; and/or
materially breaches any of the Agreement terms and conditions.

Please note that the guarantee also states that the strategies must be implemented consistently for a year. According to company records, this means you will become eligible for review on 8/6/16. We would be happy to review your documentation.

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#3 Consumer Comment

Hi read your post not sure if you received my response to fight your refund

AUTHOR: UsedNabused - (USA)

POSTED: Sunday, October 01, 2017

 Hi there, I am going through same thing as you and I have contacted you and others on this site who have or had unresolved issues with MOBE. I spoke to federal trade commissions as they handle and investigate pyramid or ponzu schemes. But they said in order for them to have enough reason to investigate that there should be ample amount of people to come forward and state their claim. I hope you can do this, so far I and five others have filed. I'm trying to get as many and if you know others please let them know because this is a very unethical program that I can't believe I fell into. This is the link to FTC ftccomplaintassistant.gov/GettingStarted?NextQID=67#crnt

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#2 Consumer Comment

MOBE ? Ripoff?

AUTHOR: Coach Carl - (USA)

POSTED: Thursday, September 28, 2017

 Hi, As with any online business it takes work on your part if you want to be successful. The majority of people that complain about Awesome Companies such as MOBE do so because they are basically lazy and always want everything for free. I am a firm believer in the ideas, concepts and overall practices of MOBE, the training you pay for is Top Notch at all levels. They teach you pretty much Step by Step how to build an online home business that you can work from literally anywhere in the world. As far as the levels go, Silver, Gold, Platinum, Titanium, Diamond you don't have to pay for them to increase your consultant level. The entry price of $49 pays for MTTB and the 21 Step Training. The monthly affiliate/consultant fee is $19.95 a month. After going through the training and setting your system up you can qualify for all the other levels by making just 5 sales, the 5th sale qualifies you as that level consultant. From the 6th sale on all the profits are yours, that's anywhere from $4.49 per sale of an ebook, $1250 for Silver Masterclass, $2500 for Gold Masterclass, $3500 for Platinum, $5000 for Titanium and up to and over $10,000 for Diamond. It's not unheard of for a consultant to earn $25,000 plus from one sale. So if you've got the guts to do a little work MOBE can truly set you financially free. Sincerely, Carl B. aka: Coach Carl For more information please feel free to contact me at: contact.carlbrim.com

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#1 General Comment

On the contrary

AUTHOR: Spark420 - (USA)

POSTED: Monday, July 03, 2017

 There is written proof stating that a full refund would be offered if you didn't make what they promised. It's in their advertisement video. Just thought I'd throw that in there for you. Technically, that is written consent of an invalid statement.

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